I had the honor and privilege of becoming a marine scoutsniper and later a scoutsniper instructor. Also, i noticed something not going fully correct with the patch at first. June 30, 2016 more pictures from the awesome training we conducted over the past few days. The turrets on the ss are not that nice, and no zero stop. The picture was taken in 2010 in afghanistan and the photos description says the ss flag had been adopted and used by the marines in reference to scout sniper. Page 1 of 2 sniper patch question, vietnam posted in army and usaaf. Ss logo used by marine corps scout snipers blogger. Strength determines your carry capacity, which is important since every bundle of 20 arrows weighs 1 pound. The ss, snowflakes, and supervision marine corps gazette blog. Goodboy talks about best items for sniper in patch 7. Panetta seeks probe of marine ss flag cnn security. How do you get a us marine corps rifle expert badge. The picture circulating on the internet was taken in september 2010 in afghanistans sangin province.
They also represented virtues seen as desirable in ss members. This has been on my mind lately with all the nonsense surrounding marine scout sniper units in iraq and afghanistan using the ss runes and deaths head. The us armys maneuver center of excellence has released an updated training circular 322. Scout snipers are the same, some would get a tattoo with a reticle and ss in it or around it with the words kopfjager. The sigrune ss symbol used in the facebook header photo is unique to nazism and is nothing to be proud of. Marine corps infantrymen and reconnaissance marines that have graduated from a u. Certainly, the use of the ss runes is not acceptable and scout snipers have been addressed concerning this issue, marine corps spokesman capt gregory wolf told the bbc. Marsoc to receive new breast insignia soldier systems daily. A marine highly skilled in field craft and marksmanship who delivers long range precision fire at selected targets, from concealed positions, in support of combat operations. The usmc scout sniper association hosts a variety of events, from hogs calls that foster camaraderie among our members to our premier annual event, the gathering of snipers. A sniper can turn the tide of an air soft war but only through discipline, training, and practice. Also the us 45th division, originally had a swastika as its divisional id patch, they changed it rather early in the war to a thunderbird. The scout sniper also has a secondary mission of gathering information for intelligence purposes. Scoutsniper team fortress 2 works archive of our own.
Many new air softeners begin saying, oh i want to be a sniper. Usmc scoutsnipers, lightning bolts and nazi symbols, part 1. Unfortunately, theres no real way to retrain the marine corps to fix our supervision. However on this matter the ss symbol you these marine snipers. He did not elaborate on what measures have been taken, but stressed that the marines shown in the picture are no longer with the unit. The 8nd sniper patch is fullcolor, but i have seen on the net 2 different sizes of this, one is the usual size and the other is larger, maybe a bit more than. Marines scout sniper patch and patches top rocker white and black we would like to thank all of our armed forces and veterans for their service. The ss is really suppose to be a budget scope, but its just not priced at a budget price anymore. The school is seven weeks long and is open to active duty, reserves, and national guard. Ss victory squared, damn coolbut yes those nazi losers used it.
In addition, scout snipers also provide close reconnaissance and surveillance to the infantry battalion. Donate today and show your support for the archive. Nelle scorse ore ci games ha rilasciato laggiornamento 1. Members pledged an oath of loyalty to adolf hitler. Teen and up audiences 149 explicit 129 mature 96 general audiences 77 not rated 27 include warnings.
Us marine sniper unit photographed with nazi ss flag bbc news. The dude who has that bike might be a 1 percenter or a wannabe. Theyre death, the ss were death, and we kicked their heads in, so theyre even more death. Choose from 31 different sets of scout sniper flashcards on quizlet. Photo shows marines posing with nazilike symbol in afghanistan. Us marines in fresh controversy over sniper team photo with nazi. The logos use is an apparent nod to scout sniper, a position exclusive to the corps. The sig runes thats what the fancy s bolt is are norse and they mean victory. Combined, the two photographs suggest that the practice has been carried out for years. Certainly, the use of the ss runes is not acceptable and scout snipers have been addressed concerning this issue, marine corps.
The article i read that that the ss stood for scout sniper as they are a scout sniper unit. Sniper elite 4 patch sniper elite 4 general discussions. The serrations looked similar to what you see above. Scout sniper mos 0317, formerly 8541 is a sniper specialist in the united states marine corps whose mission is to deny the enemy freedom of movement by killing enemy leaders, crewserved weapons operators, radiomen, observers, messengers, and other key personnel with single, wellaimed shots. The association was started in 1998, and received its irs ruling as a 501c19 veterans organization in 2004. Us marines in fresh controversy over sniper team photo. Students must be in mos series of 11 infantry, 18 special forces, or 19d cav scout. United states marine corps 1st marine division scout. The army has scouts and snipers, but considers the positions to be separate. Usmc scoutsnipers, lightning bolts and nazi symbols, part. Marine corps scout snipers from the 1st reconnaissance battalion are seen in the photo standing and kneeling with their sniper rifles in front of a blue flag with white nazi ss runes. Scout sniper marine corps mos 0317 5 military patch.
The runic insignia of the schutzstaffel known in german as the ssrunen were used from the 1920s to 1945 on schutzstaffel flags, uniforms and other items as symbols of various aspects of nazi ideology and germanic mysticism. As a former marine, and an american i can tell you that the massive historical illiteracy. Mind you, the scout sniper community has been using the runes since the 1950s and it was never an issue until amos decided to make it one. I have had two ss 520s and one steiner 416 military. While german forces had trouble with some afrikakorps symbols on vehicles and usmc scout snipers with ss runes lately, british soldiers were bashed wearing these patches and attracted some attention in the media here a typical example. Every light infantry rifle battalion has three 2man sniper teams. Photo posted on blog of marines with ss flag, as marine corps also investigate group recorded urinating on taliban corpses. Ss logo used by marine corps scout snipers only two organized military formations in history have used the ss logo. Sniper rifles patch custom name text sniper rifles hunting army military patch hook backing for attachment or sew on size 3. The two marines in it were with the scout sniper platoon with 1st battalion, 7th marines. The lightening bolt ss logo was a nod toward the scout sniper title, with the bolts also depicting the swift way the marines strike at distance. As a former marine, and an american i can tell you that the massive historical illiteracy prevalent in the us is detrimental and infectious in all aspect of american life.
Usmc scout sniper association official home facebook. The argument holds that ss stands for scout sniper and its just a coincidence wink, wink, nudge, nudge that the stylized version of the ss looks exactly like a nazi symbol. I sold both of mine at a loss, and it took a while. Marines posed for photo with nazi ss symbol in afghanistan my hunting bud in nc is our scout sniper platoon commander cole carpenter and his brittany, poncho. Scoutsnipers are the same, some would get a tattoo with a reticle and ss in it or around it with the. Marine corps infantrymen and reconnaissance marines that have successfully graduated from a usmc scout sniper school. Certainly, the use of the ss runes is not acceptable and scout snipers have been addressed concerning this issue, the statement said.
No tears, missing spots of thread and tightly wrapped. The use of the ss symbol in not acceptable and the corps has addressed the issue, lt. Runic insignia of the schutzstaffel military wiki fandom. Scout sniper mos 0317, formerly 8541 is a secondary mos military occupational specialty designator of u. Scout snipers must earn the rank of lance corporal, be selected by their battalion to join the scoutsniper platoon, and complete an. A question for recent guys, did they end up banning the use of ss symbols. The short version is neonazis at pendleton purposefully inserted nazi symbolism into the corps. Marines who join scout sniper units go through a rigorous indoctrination and background check. The shipping was just as good, our patch arrived very. Scout snipers provide close reconnaissance and surveillance to the infantry battalion.
Why are marine corps scout snipers using the logo of the. I believe kimber had a similar problem with the slide serrations on one of their pistols. Or, the least likely, they are actually some kind of nazi sympathizer. Apparently somebody didnt get the memo update soldier. A marines scout sniper team in afghanistan posed for a photograph with the nazi ss symbol. Camp pendleton, ca the marine corps scout sniper community has once again found itself embroiled in controversy this week, following the recent unveiling of a new unit logo which critics describe as a burning cross with the letters kkk. Ssvictory squared, damn coolbut yes those nazi losers used it. Often the intended use and meaning of the ss bolts in this context is quite ambiguous and difficult to determine.
The new scout sniper unit logo was intended to replace the controversial previous one, a jagged ss that some complained resembled the emblem of the. A marine student undergoing the 2nd marine division combat skills center prescout sniper course looks through an m40a5 sniper rifle at camp lejeune, n. So why do the scout snipers insist using the nazi runes. Marine scout sniper burning cross logo raises controversy. Marines may have hate group problems spacebattles forums. Check out our new thankyou gifts celebrating ao3s hugo award win.
Why are marine corps scout snipers using the logo of the nazi ss. Sons of anarchy actor proposes new marine sniper logo. The primary mission of a scout sniper in combat is to support combat operations by delivering precision fire on selected targets from concealed positions. The usmc scout sniper association is a 501c19 veterans organization. Check out our military shop for more military patches and patch panel sets. Nazi flag incident puts culture of marine snipers in spotlight. Every sbct rifle company and ranger rifle company headquarters has a sniper team. Marine snipers posed with the ss symbol in afghanistan in 2010. What makes a marine sniper a scoutsniper is the added emphasis on training and usage as a forward observer, which gives. Us marine sniper unit photographed with nazi ss flag. Mcs used to use a lot of nazi symbols to scare people, despite not usually being neo nazis.
As to the use of the ss sig runes used by the usmc sniper community, i found this. The ss army of the fascist european union, organized by hitlers germany. Scout sniper definitionsacronyms flashcards quizlet. The flag showed the notorious nazi ss organizations logo, something that had been used quietly in the scout sniper community for years. United states marine corps scout sniper mos 0317, formerly 8541 is a secondary mos military occupational specialty designator of u. It features listed improvements to animations, gameplay, graphics, ui, and a whole lot more. I have turned on that steam can always download patches, but it wanted to install the patch while i was playing se4, so my game started to hick up a lot, which forced me to save and quit hence i noticed it tried to install a patch. The ss, snowflakes, and supervision marine corps gazette. Here is an article that goes more indepth of how ss runes became associated with the scout sniper program. Learn scout sniper with free interactive flashcards. Usmc scout sniper association official, stafford, virginia.
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